MAGNER INFORMATION 70
Sent: Wednesday, December
22, 1999 10:56 AM
Subject: Data posted to form
1 of http://www.magner.org/contact.htm
JBKaherl@aol.com (John B. Kaherl)
I descend from John Magner
of Monmouth Maine. A skeletal
outline: John Kaherl, Everett Kaherl, Jessie Hammond, Ora Magner, John Magner,
James Magner, John Magner. John was
b. about 1739 in Ireland and d. April 7, 1814 in Monmouth?, Maine.
Seeking any information about John's ancestry in Ireland.
Any information at all will be helpful.
I have a genealogy report that is ready to email to someone showing more
detail and I would be willing to update anyone who asks in regard to what I
SEAN JOSEPH MAGNER
9:17:42 PM Eastern Standard Time
Sean Magner, 26, I was just
looking for any information of my late grandfather Matthew Sean Magner who was
born and raised in Belfast 1904. There exists a large clan of Magners in NYC
that I cannot locate on the web. Any help would be deeply appreciated. Thank
you, Sean SMa2125432@aol.com
Subject: Magner Family
Sent: Saturday, January 01,
2000 11:34 PM
Area Searching: Monroe, Co.
IL, MO, IN
First of all this is a great
way of contacting people on the Magner Family Tree. I hope this is the line I am
looking for. This is great. I
dont have much to add but hope I will be able to glean from it.
Zelek H. Magner born ABT
1805 in KY or PA died 1869 married Margaret McCorkle children:
John Magner born 1831
David Newton Magner born 30
Oct 1843 in IN. married Mary A Thorn or Thom,
Joseph Henry Magner
I don't know if these are in
the right order of birth. David
Newton is my g-grandfather, Mary A Thorn is my g-grandmother. Their children:
Mary b. 1871 [The mother of
Ruth b. 1878.
I think Mary was born in MO.
and Ruth was born in IL.
My father was Paul David Magner b. 1899 in Arthor, IL died
1944 in Los Angeles, CA. married 1923 IL to Ruth Elizabeth Reynolds b. 1906 St.
Elmo, IL. Would like to know how Zelek Magner connects with the Magners? Thanks
so much for this website. Its great!
10:08:56 PM Eastern Standard Time
I enclose a sighting of the Magner name. In the Pittsburgh,
Pa. 1807 edition of John Brown's Dictionary of the Holy Bible, one of the
subscribers was Edward Magner, Washington County, Pa. (In the 18th and 19th
Centuries, it was common to collect money in advance for a book and then print
the names in the back.)
This website is a great
service. Thank you. Paul Collinge
Re: Magner genealogy
11:40:13 AM Eastern Standard Time
Much appreciated - I always
thought my Magner forebearers came from Germany - now I'm baffled.
I will check out the site - thank you for your help, and a Happy
Millennium to you and yours. Best Regards, Carol
I'm a Magner, too
12:54:31 PM Eastern Standard Time
My name is Margaret Monroe. My
family is descended, on my mother's side, from Johanna Magner Melling.
Johanna died around 1956 in New York City.
She was born around 1870 in Ballyhooly, County Cork, Ireland.
She left there, from Cove, County Cork, in 1896 for New York, returned to
Ireland in 1899, and then went back to New York at the turn of the century.
I am not certain about any
other aspects of my family's history except that my great-great-grandfather,
Johanna's father, (who was a Magner) was a tax collector for the British army in
the 1800's, and as a result our family had an enormous amount of land.
This land was sold in the early 90's. There were many children in the
family--I think around 15. Johanna was the oldest.
I think that the youngest was named Bridget.
Id love it if you got back to me about other Magner genealogy if we
are indeed related.
Date: 12/9/99 10:17:29 AM Eastern Standard Time
Good afternoon Jim.
I entered the name Magner on
the search. There are 112 Magner in the England Census, 19 of which were born in
Ireland. It is sometimes spelled Magnier. Here are the single John Magners in
FHL Film 1342170
PRO Ref RG11 Piece 4858 Folio
99 Page 33
Born Rhymney Wales
Born Rhymney Wales
Born Middlesborough Yorkshire England
Caroline Williams Eston,
Date: 12/6/99 12:34:04 AM Eastern Standard Time
Thanks for the e-mail.
The web sites you sent were very interesting. I don't believe we are
related but I have a family history written up by some of the older generation
who remember these things. I will
attach the file. Thank heavens
someone wrote these things down or they would be lost forever.
You might look it over and see if you can find any connection.
I don't know if this is the kind of thing that you would post on the
Magner web site or not.
Regards, Paul Flynn
Thanks for your query, it
appears I have a family connection for you. I received this query this past May
was just reading the Magner Queries and came across your info. My
G-G-G-grandfather is named Zelek H. Magner. He is married to a Margaret
McCorkle, so naturally seeing those names in your letter interested me.>>
Please contact Randy direct
and he should be a family connection for you
I will pass you query to a
few others that may also be related to your tree and add your information at the
Good luck and welcome
10:13:11 PM Eastern Standard Time
The legal term HEADRIGHT is used by many sources in Genealogy,
but never is the complete definition ever shown.
I have tried for a long time to find a source that I could use to learn
this information, but the information is just not available.
I have an access code for the Library System at Michigan State
University, but I still couldn't find the information in their Legal archives
for British Colonial Law. In any
case, I thought that if anyone ever needed the information that they could get
it so here it is. All the best, Bob
The most common
method of obtaining land during the 17th and early 18th century was the "HEADRIGHT."
The system was designed so as to encourage emigration. Each individual who paid
for the transportation costs of an emigrant received 50 acres of land.
someone to receive a patent through the headright system they would have to
petition the county court for a "certificate of importation." The
certificates were then recorded in the county court minute books. These
certificates establish relationships, approximate arrival time in the Colony and
the locality in which the emigrant settled in.
the individual had obtained the certificate of importation he took it to the
Secretary of the Colony who then issued a "right" of 50 acres per
headright. The "right" was then taken to a county surveyor where a
plat and map was drawn along with the measurements. Once the survey was
completed, the papers were returned to the Secretary of the Colony and a patent
issuance of the patent however was conditional.
annual payment to the Crown of 1 shilling for each 50
a three-year period a house to be built and stock to be kept or the cultivation
of at least one-acre of land
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