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MAGNER Information August, 2000                          edited by: JimMagner@aol.com

Subj:      Magner's in Ca./Or./Wa.

Date:                07/19/2000 1:58:22 PM Eastern Daylight Time

From:                nfristed@kawama.com (Nathan Fristed)

To:                JimMagner@aol.com

Jim,

I came upon this site and I found it very informative. It was nice to read all the information that has been researched about the Magner surname. I went through the various family searches and did not find any currently connected to our branch of the tree. My Magner family is very proud of who we are and I know that many of our family would be more than happy to help in your search for additional information. I especially know that many of my uncles would love to search your site. Please feel free to contact me I would love to help in any way I can for anybody to get more information,

Nathan Fristed

Grandson of James David Magner

San Clemente, Ca.

Subj:      Re: William Magnier

Date:                07/15/2000 11:28:47 PM Eastern Daylight Time

From:                maryw@senet.com.au (Mary Wignall)

To:                JimMagner@aol.com

Hi Jim,

Thanks for the William Magnier address.      The information I have on my great grandmother, Bridget, was obtained from cousins who searched the records in Adelaide for a family re-union we had some years ago.  According to them she was born on 20th June 1834 and arrived in Adelaide on 24th June 1855.  On your Magner Clan site the only Bridget I could find was born in Glansekin, Kilworth,  She was shown as being 14 years old at the time of the 1851 census, which makes her born in 1836 or 1837.  Still, I suppose in those days, the records for the census may not have been totally correct.

Her parents were John and Mary .  In the list of Magners on your database there is a John Magner, parents John and Mary, who was born in Kilworth in 1832.  He is shown on the census as being 17 in 1851 which makes his birth year 1834, again 2 years out, so I think Bridget and John are probably brother and sister.   Also on your database there is a Michael Magner, born 1865 whose father was John and also a Mary Finn born 1865 whose mother was Mary Magner, possibly the children of Bridget's brother and sister, John and

Mary..(they both show on the 1851 census).   I hope this doesn't sound confusing.   I am unable to get anything on the family from the IGI records.

Where did you get all your Magnier information?   From IGI or direct from Irish records?----- Did you ever find out anything about the doctor who studied at Yale probably in the early 1900's?    I am fairly sure that his mother was a Magner, possibly married to a Brennan ( that is not 100% certain).  Please keep in touch, it is exciting to communicate with a possible rellie on the other side of the world.   Regards,  Mary Wignall

  

> From: JimMagner@aol.com

> Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 08:57:32 EDT

> To: andrew@nlg.dk

> Subject: D. Magner - 1870s Horse trainer Corrected

> Andrew,

> A correction to my prior letter. Dennis Magner is the name I should have furnished you. In my haste to reply to you I was depending on my memory (which appears to not always be working)

 Dennis Magner from the 19th century who was a famous horse trainer and author? He wrote a book entitled, "The Classic Encyclopedia of the Horse".  First printing was 1887, reprint, printed 1980.

Jim Magner

 Subj:      Re: Magner

Date:                07/20/2000 9:46:15 PM Eastern Daylight Time

From:                Kitycar1@aol.com

To:                JimMagner

Hi Jim,

No, this isn't my Peter.  My guy was born May 1869, in Fairfax Co., died Sept. 1943 in same.  He's the one married to Lucy Ann 'Annie' Sutherland.  His death certificate, a copy of which I have says his father, James, was born in Ireland, mother is unknown, although states she, too, was born in Ireland.  Peter, Annie and their son, Joseph all buried at Lee Chapel Cemetery in Burke, VA.  Do you have anything on this line especially when/where did Peter arrive in USA?

Who is Tom, and which line does his family come?  Are you a descendant of the VA Magner's?    Nice to know others are out there, for such a long time now, been going solo, with very little success.  Am anticipating your response. Kitty

 

Subj:      Re: Peter Magner, Burke, VA

Date:                07/21/2000 8:49:10 PM Eastern Daylight Time

From:     Kitycar1

To:                JimMagner

Hello Jim,

Thanks for the list of researchers, I definitely will contact them.

I, too, have been to St. Mary's church and documented all the Magner graves, I think some of them are relatives of my grandfather, Peter A., but am still sorting out.  Will let you know if I link up. Tom seems to be a real go-getter, am going to contact him after I answer you.

I've been corresponding with Anita Magner, mother of Anthony Magner, who was searching for his grandfather, Peter A. back in 12/1999.  I am her husband's 2nd cousin and have material I'm sharing with them including family photos.  She is very excited.

Thanks for your help & keep searching! Kitty

 

 

Subj:      St. Mary's Church-Fairfax,Va

Date:                07/22/2000 10:04:04 PM Eastern Daylight Time

From:                SKCM23@aol.com

To:                JimMagner

Jim,

      I think I may have found my great-grandfathers grave at this church on Ox Road.  I think you sent me some history about this church at one time but I can’t find it, could you send it to me again.  Also does this church have a web site and if so what is the address.  Think my great grandfather is James Magner who is buried there, date of death is 9/27/1893 and there is a Honora buried next to him, possibly a wife, b1805, d. 3/17/1909.  Both are from County Clare, Ireland.  It says James died at the age of 104.  I am going to try to get burial records if the church has them.  Thanks. Richard Magner

  

Date:                07/23/2000 8:36:59 AM Eastern Daylight Time

From:                maryw@senet.com.au (Mary Wignall)

To:                JimMagner@aol.com (Jim Magner)

Hi Jim,

I have printed up your emails and on reading through one carefully, I noticed that your great grandfather Thomas Magner/Magnier was the son of John Magnier and Elizabeth Sweeney.    My great grandmother Bridget had a brother John, who was listed as 17 years old in the 1851 Census, which makes him born (according to that record) in 1833 or 1834.  As you said before, 3 or 4 years difference meant nothing in those days, so it is possible that your great great grandfather John was the brother of my great grandmother Bridget.  She was born in 1834, according to records in Australia (which she would have supplied, so were probably correct) and her brother John was 3 years older. Their parents were John Magner and Mary Lane (I think Lane is correct) who were born about 1792 and 1791 respectively.  I was always told as a child that the spelling was Magnier, although on my great grandparents marriage certificate it is spelt Magner.  

 Mary Wignall

  Subj:      Magner

Date:                07/31/2000 4:01:14 PM Eastern Daylight Time

From:                wilan@pronetisp

To:                JimMagner@aol.com

I have to write to my cousin in Kilkenny to find out more about the Magner connection.  In l954 my sister was visiting the Kilkenny relations and they took her to visit this woman, who was a first cousin of my mother, and her name was Magner and she had l0 children.  This was in Cork, which Inez says is where the name Magner is from.  My grandmother's name was O'Regan or Regan (they seem to drop the O sometimes).  I don't know if that would be the woman's maiden name or she was the daughter of one of my grandmother's sisters.  There were l7 children in the family. When I have some more information from Ireland, I'll send it along

  Subj:      D. Magner - 1870s Horse trainer Corrected

Date:                07/13/2000 8:57:32 AM Eastern Daylight Time

From:                JimMagner

To:                andrew@nlg.dk

Andrew,

A correction to my prior letter. Dennis Magner is the name I should have furnished you. In my haste to reply to you I was depending on my memory (which appears to not always be working) Dennis Magner from the 19th century who was a famous horse trainer and author? He wrote a book entitled, "The Classic Encyclopedia of the Horse". First printing was 1887, reprint, printed 1980.

Jim Magner

  

Subj:      Lewis Magner

Date:                07/29/2000 10:37:02 AM Eastern Daylight Time

From:                JimMagner

I have been looking for a few years for a Lewis Magner up in Connecticut

Lewis Magner appeared twice living with my gg-grandmother Elizabeth (Sweeney) Magner in Bridgeport, CT. Elizabeth was born Ireland, arrived NY September 16, 1884, four months after John Magner her husbands death in Rockmills, Cork, IR

While tracking down Elizabeth she surfaced in Bridgeport in 1888 and remained in Bridgeport until her death in 1896, interned at St. Michael's.

From Bridgeport City Directory

16 Pine 1891 Elizabeth Magner

16 Pine 1891 Lewis Magner

 

36 Pine 1893 Elizabeth Magner

36 Pine 1893 Lewis Magner

 

As you can see two different addresses two years apart, not likely a stranger. St Michael's Cemetery has very poor to no records available for that time period. I have checked the CT. death index with no luck as well as surrounding states also negative.

Whereas I can account for the other children of Elizabeth Magner we have an oral record of a brother with no name listed. He is reported as moving north out of New York City. It has also been reported that he died prior to 1914. Than again he may be a brother-in law or other relation we don't know how he fits the family at this time. If by chance you see a reference to a Lewis Magner anywhere I would appreciate a note.

Thank you, Jim

 

Subj:      Re: Morgean Ashly Magner

Date:                07/31/2000 4:08:28 PM Eastern Daylight Time

From:                JimMagner

To:                MJam1826

Jim,

Congratulations to you and your wife on your new daughter.

At a guess I suspect your daughter's gg-grandparents are Thomas F. and Mary (Edna) Magner from Bayonne, NJ. You would than also have had relatives in Cranford, Boonton, Bayonne, Jersey City, and Parsippany, NJ.

Her ggg-grandparents would be Thomas & Margaret Magner both born in Ireland. If any of this fits or sounds familiar let me know I can fill you in on much of your ancestors

 I think I have the correct family. First lets confirm who your father is. You tell me his name is Robert Magner correct? Do you know his date of birth even approximate? Most important is your father a twin? In order to connect you with this family I need to know exactly who is in your family. I have quite a bit of additional genealogy information available for this family if you connect to it. I have a Richard Magner formerly from Bayonne, NJ. This Richard Magner I believe to be your Fathers Twin brother.

Jim Magner

  

Subj:      Re: Scannells from Cork

Date:                05/25/2000 3:02:07 PM Eastern Daylight Time

From:     Letnj

 

 Dear Jim, I started browsing some of your homepage, and though I did not see any Scannells yet, I see some of your Magners lived in Jersey City and Hoboken. Bingo!!! My grandmother lived in East Orange, Jersey City, and I believe Hoboken .Her mother's relatives, the Scannells, some lived in New York City. I definitely think we have a connection here. I also see Castlemagner mentioned. That Scannell family I found is Patrick Scannell and Catherine Healy, children Catherine, born or baptized Aug. 20, 1865 in Killavallig, Castlemagner, William, b. March 31 1867 Killavallig, Castlemagner, Ellen Nov. 7, 1869, Killavallig, Castlemagner, Honora, born May 3, 1869, Killavillig, Julia Sept 6, 1872, Killavillag, Patrick, born March 3, 1874, Hannah, born (?) Feb. 1, 1876, Betteville, Castlemagner, Jeremiah born June 23, 1878, Betteville, (this date is 10 years off according to a direct descendant, he lived in Betteville, Castlemagner, and Denis born Jan. 25, 1882. The lady I correspond with is related to Jeremiah Scannell, who settled in N.Y. City. Does this help? How are you related to the Scannells? Laura

  

----- Original Message -----

To: <fredgeit@rivernet.net>

Sent: Monday, May 29, 2000 8:14 PM

Subject: Jerry or Gerhardt Magner

<We are looking for a Jerry or Gerhardt Magner and his family originally from Germany. Last met in the late 70’s in Sarnia, Ontario, Canada. Last known address: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada working for Shell Co.>

Fred,

Give me a few days let me see if I can help. Most of the research I do is for Magner's long past but I do have a few Magner connections up in Canada as well as Germany. I will also post your query to the Message Board Section at the next update, Jim Magner

 

From:                JAMESAMSJ@aol.com

To:                Stone54380

Hi!

I don't know anything about the Magner's except they must have been neighbors of my grandparents because there are pictures of them in a photo album I have.  I thought someone in their family would like them and perhaps they have photos of my family. 

Ann

 

O'Donnell and Magner - Martinstown/Kilmallock/Rathkeale

Maureen Pyne - 09:18pm Jul 14, 2000 Irish

I am researching my Limerick ancestors, the John O'Donnell family of Clareen farm in Martinstown outside Kilmallock and his sister, Ellie O'Donnell Magner who lived in Kilfinane and Rathkeale, and later Limerick. Their other siblings included Hannah, Nora, Bryan and Michael, the latter two emigrated to America in 1860's. We understand the Clareen farmhouse is over 400 years old; we know nothing of their parents and little of them. John O'Donnell's descendants may still reside at Clareen. We would be most appreciative of any information on the history of these localities, other local family names, churches, cemeteries, record centers. Thank you. Maureen O'Donnell Pyne

 

Subj:      Re: Magner

Date:                07/20/2000 9:46:15 PM Eastern Daylight Time

From:     Kitycar1

To:                JimMagner

Hi Jim,

No, this isn't my Peter.  My guy was born May 1869, in Fairfax Co., died Sept. 1943 in same.  He's the one married to Lucy Ann 'Annie' Sutherland.  His death certificate, a copy of which I have says his father, James, was born in Ireland, mother is unknown, although states she, too, was born in Ireland.  Peter, Annie and their son,

Joseph all buried at Lee Chapel Cemetery in Burke, VA.  Do you have anything on this line especially when/where did Peter arrive in USA? Who is Tom, and which line does his family come?  Are you a descendant of the VA Magner's?    Nice to know others are out there, for such a long time now, been going solo, with very little success.  Am anticipating your response.

Kitty

 Subj:      Re: Peter Magner, Burke, VA

Date:                07/21/2000 8:49:10 PM Eastern Daylight Time

From:     Kitycar1

To:                JimMagner

Hello Jim,

Thanks for the list of researchers; I definitely will contact them.

I, too, have been to St. Mary's church and documented all the Magner graves, I think some of them are relatives of my grandfather, Peter A., but am still sorting out.  Will let you know if I link up. Tom seems to be a real go-getter, am going to contact him after I answer you.

I've been corresponding with Anita Magner, mother of Anthony Magner, who was searching for his grandfather, Peter A. back in 12/1999.  I am her husband's 2nd cousin and have material I'm sharing with them including family photos.  She is very excited.

Thanks for your help & keep searching! Kitty

 

Subj:      obit

Date:                08/13/2000 9:42:08 AM Eastern Daylight Time

From:                AnnWicki

To:                JimMagner

OBITUARIES from The Plain Dealer, Cleveland

Professor James E. Magner

JR. PhD., age 72, beloved husband of the late Joan, dear father of James E. III, Maureen Sylak (Husband Robert), Gregory (Wife Anna) and David B.; grandfather of Bruce and the late Evelyn Byrne; beloved professor of many students at John Carroll University and Veteran of the US Army, Korea. Memorial Mass Wednesday, August 16, 2000 at 10am, at Gesu Church, 2470 Miramar Blvd. Contributions are suggested to the John Carroll University Scholarship Fund. Arrangements by NICOL-WELLS-KLOSS FUNERAL HOME, LYNDHURST. Online information @ www.legacy.com

 Subj:      question

Date:                08/13/2000 4:41:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time

From:                janfortado@mediaone.net (Jan Fortado)

To:                JimMagner@aol.com

 Jim, I was browsing some of your messages again and noticed that in the September 1998 messages there was a Bo Jo Wright who had a Magner-Gallaher marriage on Staten Island. Do you happen to know her e-mail address?

Thanks, Jan

 

Subj:      Fw: Data posted to form 1 of http://www.magner.org/contact.htm

Date:                08/14/2000 2:49:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time

From:                drrmk@pe.net (RMK Research)

Sent: Friday, August 11, 2000 1:44 PM

> YourName:        Maureen Teachman

> Email:           mteach@bigfoot.com

> Surname:         MAGNIER

> Area Searching:   France

> The following history I believe occurred in France.  The spelling I am told is MAGNIER for this particular family.  Does anyone else have MAGNIER in France?

Gaspard FOURNIER (lawyer) married Elizabeth MAGNIER.  Their daughter Alexandrine Elizabeth FOURNIER (died 1866) married Jean Baptiste SALOMON (died in 1872)?

 Children:

Jean Baptist Gaspard Charles SALOMON (1829-1899 born in France died & St, Pierre et Miquelon, FR)

       m Marie Eugenie LENOIR b 1827

Children: Auguste SALOMON, Jeanne  SALOMON, Marie SALOMON and

        Jean Marie Eugene SALOMON (1856-1900/1909)

              m 12/1885 in Bayonne France  Marie Josephine HUMBERT (1863-1948)

Henri SALOMON a French Senator (1831-1908)

 Anyone who can help?

 Thanks

 

 Subj:      Fw: Data posted to form 1 of http://www.magner.org/contact.htm

Date:                08/14/2000 2:59:41 PM Eastern Daylight Time

> YourName:        Margaret (Maggie)

> Email:           Maggiemegastar@bigpond.com

> Surname:         Magner

> Area Searching: Australia

> My name is Margaret Ann Magner.  My father was Michael Denis Magner.  He died in 1957 when I was seven.  He was born in in Sydney Australia in about 1912 (I think.)  I have very little knowledge about my father.  He married Elizabeth Gray MacIntyre in 1944 (I think).  My mother passed away last year but for reasons known only to her, never talked much about my father. As a result I now have a thirst for knowledge about him.  Can anyone give me some more information?

 Subj:      Fw: Data posted to form 1 of http://www.magner.org/contact.htm

Date:                08/14/2000 3:03:07 PM Eastern Daylight Time

From:                drrmk@pe.net (RMK Research)

> YourName:        Moira  Draper

> Email:           moira_draper@hotmail.com

> Surname:         Lawton-Morey-Fitzgibbon-Cotter families

> Area Searching:   Midleton, Carrigtwohill, Ballyrichard, Water Rock, Woodstock, Youghal and Ladysbridge, County Cork, Ireland

> Information on COTTER FAMILIES OF COUNTY CORK IRELAND Richard Lawton b. abt 1777 married Margaret Cotter b. abt 1780 James Lawton -m- Abigail Cotter abt 1833 Ed Cotter sponsor christening Cath Lawton 1850 James Lawton married Mary Cotter abt 1835

 

Subj:      Re: Magnier

Date:                08/14/2000 11:50:26 PM Eastern Daylight Time

From:                mteach@home.com (Maureen Teachman)

Reply-to:                mteach@bigfoot.com

To:                JimMagner@aol.com

 Hello Jim,

Thank you so much for the information.  I know that people did move between countries and perhaps my Magnier family came from Ireland to France.  I do not know that anyone of the Magnier surname came to the US.  I look forward to checking the list again and perhaps there will actually be an Irish connection.

The other side of my French relatives actually has an O'Reilly and Power marrying into the Arnaud family and living in St. Pierre et Miqueleon.  Perhaps the Magnier name will be easier than my most difficult Irish ancestors.  I have a Mary O'Brien and Martin O'Brien buried in Brooklyn, NY in the early 1900's.  I still have to check their death certificates and see where they lived in the census.  You won't believe how many Martin O'Brien's there are in the world over the years.  And to think, I thought Martin might be a bit more unusual.  Not enough to make a difference.  Oh well, that is why I am working on my French ancestors.

Again, thanks for the information and just keep me in mind if you run into something.

Maureen Teachman

South Windsor, CT

 Subj:      Re: Magner

Date:                08/16/2000 6:09:06 AM Eastern Daylight Time

From:                maggiemegastar@bigpond.com (margaret magner)

To:                JimMagner@aol.com

 Many thanks for getting back to me.  I will look forward to receiving more information.

Regards

Margaret Magner

 

 Subj:      Re: question

Date:                08/16/2000 3:36:04 PM Eastern Daylight Time

From:                janfortado@mediaone.net (Jan Fortado)

To:                JimMagner@aol.com

 Jim, I don't remember the details now. I have discovered that my Gallaghers came from Ballynoulty in the parish of Kildorrery. (They probably intermarried with my Carrolls years before my later Gallagher Kenny

marriage - and James Kenneys mother was Ann Carroll). I try to check on any Gallaghers from the Kildorrery parish in Cork. Thanks for offering to help.   Jan

 

Subj:      Hello

Date:                08/19/2000 6:29:15 PM Eastern Daylight Time

From:     Bob Magner@aol.com

To:                JimMagner

I thought you would like to know that my Dad, Robert G. Magner, Sr. died on 10 August 00.  He really liked your web site and did a lot of research on the family tree. 

Sincerely,

Robert G. Magner, Jr.

 

 Subj:      Re: Magnier

Date:                08/21/2000 10:09:01 PM Eastern Daylight Time

From:                ash.mb@mciworld.com (ash.mb)

To:                JimMagner@aol.com

Jim,

I've been away for the summer with my children and just got your email.  I printed the information to show my father.  A lot of my relatives are interned in Holy Name Cemetery.

Mary

 

Subj:      Fw: Data posted to form 1 of http://www.magner.org/contact.htm

Date:                08/22/2000 4:08:52 PM Eastern Daylight Time

> YourName:        GERARD MAGNER  Email: RGMAG@YAHOO.COM

> Area Searching:   BANDON CO. CORK IRELAND

MAGNER FAMILY ORIGINALLY FROM BALLYLANDERS CO LIMERICK IRELAND .

 

Subj:      Fw: Data posted to form 1 of http://www.magner.org/contact.htm

Date:                08/22/2000 4:09:24 PM Eastern Daylight Time

From:                drrmk@pe.net (RMK Research)

> YourName: LISA MAGNER Email: LAMM99@YAHOO.COM

> Area Searching:   BANDON, CO. CORK, IRELAND

> I AM STUDYING PHYSIOLOGY AT U.C.C. I AM INTERESTED IN CINEMA AND DANCING

AND TRY TO PLAY A BIT OF VOLLEYBALL. I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM ANY OTHER

YOUNG MAGNERS FROM AROUND THE WORLD.

 

Subj:      Fw: Data posted to form 1 of http://www.magner.org/contact.htm

Date:                08/22/2000 4:10:58 PM Eastern Daylight Time

From:                drrmk@pe.net (RMK Research)

> YourName:        Kim Callahan Hedden  Email: Kim@wizard.net

> Surname:         Callahan: Shennick: Harrison

> Area Searching: Cork

> Thanks for posting the "Suspected Whiteboys" on the Cork List.  'Tis damned ashamed I will be if no kin o'mine is to be found among the rebels.

Ř       Callahan

 

Subj:      Fw: Data posted to form 1 of http://www.magner.org/contact.htm

Date:                08/22/2000 4:27:41 PM Eastern Daylight Time

From:                drrmk@pe.net (RMK Research)

> Post:            Yes

> YourName:        Mike Sheehan Jersey City-Bayonne

> Email:           ChosFewNJ@aol.com

> Surname:         Sheehan

> Area Searching:   Irealnd/Finuge-Lixnaw-Ballyhorgan

> I am extremely pleased to read such a comprehensive listing of ancestors from one family - practically from the beginning of time - in all phases -on land and sea.  You are to be commended - as I have never seen such a listing.

 Should there be a Medal of Honor for family genealogies I would place yours in nomination

 

Found on the www

 

Saturday, August 26, 2000

Subject:

Ophilla Magner married in Calif

Posted by:

Julie Nichols

Message:

Any families that moved to Calif in 1800's would give me an area to search 

 

Saturday, August 26, 2000

Subject:

Magner's moved to Calif

Posted by:

Julie Nichols

Message:

Ophillia magner first husband was Arnold Stump she was born aprox 1845 give or take I can't find her any where on census any possible inform. anything that will give me an area to search blaschkaja@aol.com

 

Friday, August 04, 2000

Subject:

Irish/Australian/Calif

Posted by:

Carol

Message:

I only have three Magners in my family tree, my GGGrandmother Mary MAGNER who arrived in Australia from Co Cork Ireland in 1840 with her husband Garrett FITZPATRICK and son Denis. Her parents are Francis MAGNER and Catherine. On her death in 1868 her death notice in the paper advised "California papers please copy" I would like to find a connection.

 

Monday, July 31, 2000

Subject:

Amelia Magner

Posted by:

Reva J. Fields

Message:

Looking for Amelia Magner. She married a Thomas Stewart. Had twins were named Nancy & John after her older siblings that were also twins. Last known location - Webster Co. NE. Believed to have moved to WA. Possibly spent some time in KS - raising other younger children. Any info would be appreciated. Thanks Reva

 

Friday, July 28, 2000

Subject:

Jennie Magner

Posted by:

Reva J. Magner Fields

Message:

Looking for info on Jennie Magner. She married Ernest Hunt. Is she actually Ida J. Magner? The Hunt's may have moved from NE to CO.

 

 

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